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Post by James on Aug 23, 2004 14:18:26 GMT -5
Then in COK3 I had a large plan to get Ceej executed by whoever he was under, but I decided not to mess with it. *cough* you did mess with it Hammer, but I was a really crap ruler in 3 so instead of judging someone who was according to you going to rebel because I'd done something wrong, I changed my plans to get him to stay! Then he lost every battle he was in...not his fault though, I was the only member of Wu to win a battle in that tourn, and that's only because it was against an NPC instead of Shu or the Shadow Forces.  |
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Post by James on Aug 23, 2004 14:19:12 GMT -5
Tis better to suck than to swallow ;D |
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Post by SOLIDSNKE on Aug 23, 2004 14:24:52 GMT -5
NOT FACIAL'D
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Post by Dark on Aug 23, 2004 14:26:47 GMT -5
Tis better to suck than to swallow ;D I like swallowing >_> |
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Post by SOLIDSNKE on Aug 23, 2004 14:28:02 GMT -5
Yeah same here. I don't like sucking me food much. |
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Post by Hammer on Aug 23, 2004 17:26:50 GMT -5
I can't even count the times Hammer tried to trick us in Shu in the first two COKs either. Never succeeded, but tried and tried and tried and tried........  Well let's see... I didn't really do anything the first COK because I was busy with my ruling duties and a shitload of stress at the time. But in the first COK... you GAVE us land, then we betrayed you, it was so obvious yet you fell for it. Then I had 2 defectors from Shu... which unfortunately didn't make it over, but it just showed their "awesome" loyalty. I also spread multiple romurs within Shu and I remember one specific incident in which you got mad and blocked me ever since because you fell for it. If Wei and Meng Huo's forces could have kept their store houses then we could have done something. But unfortunately you always got 1000+ more points than us because they couldn't keep their storehouses. And towards the end we regrouped and began winning a few battles. Then in which you complained about how defenders got the advantage for picking the stage, when in all acuallity there was NO place where Wu had an advantage, Shu always did yet you went on and on about it and ultimately caused the end of COK1 with your bitching. Thank you and good bye. |
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Post by Zhang He on Aug 23, 2004 17:52:29 GMT -5
But in the first COK... you GAVE us land, then we betrayed you, it was so obvious yet you fell for it. That plan ended up screwing you in the long run, so there's really nothing to be proud about. |
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Post by Raiden on Aug 23, 2004 18:25:55 GMT -5
COK1 was great.  |
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Post by Matrixxa - Jian Yong on Aug 23, 2004 18:40:00 GMT -5
COK1 was great. *bows* Yes, it was.  |
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Post by Hammer on Aug 23, 2004 22:29:08 GMT -5
That plan ended up screwing you in the long run, so there's really nothing to be proud about. Nothing to be proud about? We got 2 free lands and a connection to Wei, and it also halved Shu. We did lose the lands but it gave us more endurance. The point is is that we got the land. Wu was the 2nd most successful of the 4. If Wei could have been powerful enough to keep their depot, we wouldn't have lost like we did. |
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Post by The Lazy Person on Aug 24, 2004 13:59:38 GMT -5
Nothing to be proud about? We got 2 free lands and a connection to Wei, and it also halved Shu. We did lose the lands but it gave us more endurance.
The point is is that we got the land. Wu was the 2nd most successful of the 4. If Wei could have been powerful enough to keep their depot, we wouldn't have lost like we didThe point is you should have stuck with being Shu's ally. They were the most powerful, and betraying them was stupid. You could have continued your attacks upon Wei and Nanman and gotten more land. Infact, once you became our allies(I repeatedly told Togera not to), I advised we ally with Shu and demolish you, but once again, Togera didn't heed my words. And we ended up breaking apart at the end anyways.
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Post by Dark on Aug 24, 2004 14:16:09 GMT -5
Nothing to be proud about? We got 2 free lands and a connection to Wei, and it also halved Shu. We did lose the lands but it gave us more endurance. The point is is that we got the land. Wu was the 2nd most successful of the 4. If Wei could have been powerful enough to keep their depot, we wouldn't have lost like we did. >_> |
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Post by Hammer on Aug 24, 2004 16:00:28 GMT -5
The point is you should have stuck with being Shu's ally. They were the most powerful, and betraying them was stupid. You could have continued your attacks upon Wei and Nanman and gotten more land. Infact, once you became our allies(I repeatedly told Togera not to), I advised we ally with Shu and demolish you, but once again, Togera didn't heed my words. And we ended up breaking apart at the end anyways. Well... me and togera were close back then. Shu had already gotten all of the depots from you, and we were sitting ducks. We had to do something or die later. If they were able to get more land, then we would die out quickly. By allying with Wei... we got to keep you all alive rather than fall to shu after your depot was taken. Kieron is cool though >_> like our kick ass win against naved (the cheater) and... CoW. |
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Post by Javelina aka Wu Tugu on Aug 24, 2004 20:04:22 GMT -5
If Wei could have been powerful enough to keep their depot, we wouldn't have lost like we did. Music to my ears. He actually admitted losing! Also, . naved (the cheater) and... Well, if he was you were too! Neither of you ever explained your battle methods for claimed high scores. So I do not see how you have a right to talk about Naved like that. For those who do not understand, Hammer was co-administrator of the tourney in COK 1, and both of the admins were on the Wu team. While I trusted Solid not to use this to unfair advantage(and he was the main admin), Hammer seemed to be unaware of how his position was precarious at best in providing a semblance of fairness, and if a suggestion was made as to how the rules were being interpreted in a way that hurt the tourney, Hammer would immediatley argue against what seemed logical. Meanwhile the tourney got to the point that the battles had been worked out and since the defense set the battles, and thus could pick a side that they could not lose (i.e. Wei picks Mt Ding Jun or Bo Wan Po when they want a clear win, Shu picks Chang Ban or Guan Yu's Escape). If anyone attacked anyone else they would lose. So the tourney ended because I certainly wasn't going to attack with a commanding lead just to force our kingdom to lose. And no one else was going to either. If that is "whining" I guess it whineded to an end! No COK tourney has ever begun again with an admin as a ruler or player on a kingdom team, and for good reason. This is no smear on Solid, but it was one of the few flaws in the first COK. Also, the reason COK1 was the "best" was not just because it was new, but also because people did take it more seriously. This would seem to be a contradiction to what we should think is fun, but we tried to act more like warriors and rulers and an RP duel was also much more serious. Everything had a touch of importance and both honor and treachery were rampant! |
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Post by Zhang He on Aug 25, 2004 1:03:25 GMT -5
Meanwhile the tourney got to the point that the battles had been worked out and since the defense set the battles, and thus could pick a side that they could not lose (i.e. Wei picks Mt Ding Jun or Bo Wan Po when they want a clear win, Shu picks Chang Ban or Guan Yu's Escape). If anyone attacked anyone else they would lose. So the tourney ended because I certainly wasn't going to attack with a commanding lead just to force our kingdom to lose. And no one else was going to either. If that is "whining" I guess it whineded to an end! I suck at Mt. Ding Jun wei side. I can only get around 9000 tops now and Chang Ban Wei side I can get over 17,000(it could have been higher). >_< Beh, I only scored 6,000(could have been lower) against you and Doof when we did it, but luckily Togee got 12,000. ^_________^ |
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